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Comment from: claire [Visitor]
I agree it is weird, but perhaps also something of the two-sidedness within all of us?! What we selfishly like, want, think is cool versus what we think is right, just, fair...(Plus I think Starbucks has done a very good job in its branding, somewhat hiding its multi-nationalness through its coffeeshop round the corner, comfortable, fairtrade, artsy, bookreading, mac-user vibe - which young Dutchies like to ascribe to =).

Have you seen 'the age of stupid'? It's about climate change - someone looking back from the future at everything we know now and why we didn't take more urgent action. Anyway, one of the main points I remembered from the film was the paradoxes. It has several story-lines:

One follows a British guy who is trying to gain planning permission to put up windfarms in the middle of England. Villagers protest because they think it will make their environment look ugly, but when interviewed say they care deeply about climate change.

Another follows villagers in the Swiss Alps who are protesting the enlargement of the road, as it will mean more emissions (you are shown by how much the glaciers there have already melted), but they are also concerned it will bring more noise, traffic, dirt and ugliness to their quiet mountain village.

A third line follows an Indian entrepreneur who is starting a low-budget airline similar to Ryanair, claiming he wants to help give poor people an opportunity to fly like the rest of us.

I myself would like to live in a pretty quiet village with small roads, nice clean views and be able to fly at a low cost...and occasionally I'll admit I have had Starbucks (though I shall protect my honour by saying I wouldn't be willing to wait in line for it), even though I helped organise an evening where we showed a film on fair trade coffee and the plights of small producers in Ethiopia.

So hmmm...
01 December 2009 @ 11:02
Comment from: Anneke [Visitor] · http://annekesemiart.blogspot.com/
I think that these groups are not really the same, sure, many young people stand in line for Starbucks, but I don't belive they are the same kind of people that would protest say for Greenpeace. But maybe they are, and in that case I think Claire has a point.
01 December 2009 @ 11:16
Comment from: ericasp [Member] Email
Thanks for the film recommendation, Claire. It sounds like it would indeed be a fascinating study of precisely the irregularities noted with the Amsterdammers' excitement about Starbucks.

As for your skepticism, Anneke, you're absolutely right that I need to be careful not to over-generalize (especially considering the fact that there are a lot of internationals traveling through Amsterdam Centraal Station and Schiphol Airport). But I do have several personal acquaintances who are true warriors for social justice while still unashamedly fond of their Starbucks Lattes and Frappuchinos -- and would even consider myself to be one of this crowd!
01 December 2009 @ 12:06
Comment from: Anneke [Visitor] · http://annekesemiart.blogspot.com/
I must admit that, though I'm not "on the barricades", I'm definately engaged in a better world (both environmentally and human rights etc) AND I like Starbucks coffee... Hmmm.

Maybe if you don't like the world domination that Starbucks represents you could buy your coffee at Bagels&Beans. They have one farmer, whose coffee they buy and there is definately one in Amsterdam as it was founded there. :)
01 December 2009 @ 15:59
Comment from: krista [Visitor]
eric,
i love your writing! if you ever write a book i will buy it! hope you enjoyed BG, i was sad to miss it... going to head to the evil domain today to write a 25 page paper over a carmel machiatto... or a peppermint mocha!
01 December 2009 @ 18:21
Comment from: Greg C. [Visitor]
E., this is quite surprising, but 'shouldn't be' given that what I know about human nature... which you're written about here; the desire for something new, go with the flow, counter-dependant tendancies... and on... Personally, I won't go to Stizzy's (as I call it) - But I'm an experience guy; I want the personal interaction, a barista who is 'ol'skool', and an atmosphere that isn't corporate... but thats just me.
03 December 2009 @ 19:38

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