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Comment from: brett maxwell [Visitor] Email · http://brettmaxwell.com
Considering 2 Peter 3:9 will lead to Romans 8:19, perhaps the most environmental thing we can do is tell people about Jesus. (Though I'm certainly not saying to abuse the Earth in the meantime.)
16 October 2007 @ 22:00
Comment from: Sander [Visitor] Email · http://www.sanderchan.com
Thanks for addressing this topic. In my personal concern over the environment I try not to be judgmental. Yet, I think we should be very careful applying the 'new Pharisaism' label.

In my view the opposite is more often the case, green Christians are being judged. They supposedly distract the 'Christian political agenda' (which is somehow limited to abortion, euthanasia, and gay marriage), they are 'liberal', and they are prone to idolatry (pantheism, and nature worship). Fact is, that among Christians, the environmentally concerned are still a very small majority. This may be surprising since God's first commandment to humans was to take good care of the earth. The limited voice of green Christians makes it almost prophetic. And as is often the case with prophetic voices, they are too easily dismissed. It's easier to judge and condemn non-mainstream (yet orthodox) voices than to listen and consider them.

I know you carefully consider the green appeal by some Christians. And I very much appreciate that. But the term new Pharisaism is vocabulary that can easily be abused to further condemn and judge a minority voice.

27 October 2007 @ 01:05
Comment from: Sander [Visitor] Email · http://www.sanderchan.com
Dear Bret,

I agree with you that religion, worldviews and socioal/economic behaviour are intricately linked to environmental change (whether for good or bad). This is a very deep and rich understanding. Therefore I also agree with you that more following of Jesus, who so much loved the world, should also imply a better world (better community, peace, better environment etc.).

However, the interconnectedness of things should not allow for as single focus on one issue (e.g. evangelism) and disregard of other issues. Talking about Jesus is not environmental policy. It is even the question whether talking about Jesus will eventually lead to a better environment. The heavy emphasis on saving souls, often results in a disregard of the incarnational nature of Jesus ministry, which includes physical redemption.

To give you an example. When I am to divise a policy on crisis management, I talk about crisis management. I try to counteract possible crises, not by spreading the word about Jesus, but by analysing potential dangers and finding suitable solutions to contain and act. Of course, I could reason - "if every one believes in Jesus the way we do - there would no external threat, so no crisis; so I better talk about Jesus". But I hope you agree that this would make me a very bad crisis manager. So why would I go and tell about Jesus, when the challenge is to turn around and counteract a looming environmental crisis?
Don't get me wrong. I act and talk on environmental matters from a Christian conviction, and I often bring up the topic "Christian life and the environment". However, I don't want to limit myself to talking about Jesus and pretending that it is environmental just because it's about Jesus.
27 October 2007 @ 01:25
Comment from: brett maxwell [Visitor] Email · http://brettmaxwell.com
Sander, thank you for your perspective. I agree entirely and wish my emphasis on the most important part of our faith (salvation of souls) did not give the impression of ignoring other issues, but I can understand how we have arrived at such a situation. I also agree entirely with Eric, the danger with any passion is that it may become an idol. In so many areas of our life there is a spectrum from ungodly to pharisaism and we must walk carefully in the middle like Jesus.
28 October 2007 @ 06:47

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